Former U.S. military officer says UK troops should be court-martialed

Former U.S. military officer says UK troops should be court-martialed

First the Reason! My name(galljdaj) is not posted, a coward, liar, plagiarist, and theif stole the name. I call this theif uncle toms. He does have other names he uses. This site now assigns a name.

The so called Officer and News Agency are first second and third pUNDITS IN SEARCH OF dOLLARS. Never the Truth, unless its soo much better than they can invent!

Anyone familure with the so called Military Code, knows that if you are not killed, your subject to the abuse of a Court Marshall, when ever its demanded, of the Troops, because they are 'Expendable'!

It has been and always will be, save the commander in chief’s Butt!

they were lucky

I say leave the 15 be. If Iran was as bad as we are led to believe they are, those 15 soldiers would be dead. As far as what that lt. col. Peters said, I would have put on a dress and sang a few songs if I was being held hostage by an army. Court marshall these nuts. If I knew that they were going to kill me then I would behave differently but if I know that I am going to get out alive then I am going to cooperate so I don’t endanger myself or my fellow soldiers. Call me what you want but I’m free bit@#$%!!!!!!!!

We all know what Sammy would have done

first Sammy would have pissed in his pants and second Sammy would have kissed Ahamadinejad’s ass and begged for mercy, next he would have tried to join the revolutionary guards.

Name, Rank, and Serial number

Thats all thats required of a prisoner of war....If the Iranians had shot those soldiers, the US and Britian would have bombed Tehran into a dust bowl. Captured soldiers do not give aid to the enemy propaganda machine.

Im sure President Bush offered the British any assistance they wanted, including our military might. Ahamadinejad knew the risks of war were very high so thats why he released the hostages. The Iranians may be stupid but they are not fools....

WHAT WAS DONE / WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, NOW! ! !

WHAT WAS DONE TO OUR BROTHERS & SISTER OF THE BRIT-LAND WAS AN ACT OF WAR AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED!!! I’M A PROUD AMERICAN THAT BELIEVES IT’S TIME TO KICK SOME IRAN ASS!!! NO MORE TIME TO PUSH US AND OUR BROTHERS AROUND. END THIS CRAP NOW ! BEFORE EVERYONE TRIES TO RUN OVER US...NOTICE I SAID TRY...THATS RIGHT! IT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN! I’M NOT INTO THE THOUGHT OF KILLIN', BUT SOONER OR LATER IT’S TIME TO WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN.
SIGNED :EX-NAVY

please forgive me for using the word pUNDIT 2000,000 times.

After smokin that joint and sniffin that coke, I cant remember how to spell pUNdit anymore, and i have a new perspective on Bush, now i love him sooo much.

SAMMY-YOU KNOW WHERE TO STICK UR DIPLOMACY

"DIPLOMACY”, IT’S NOT WORKING WITH IRAN (IS THAT WHERE YOUR FROM), CAUSE YOUR CRAP’S NOT WORKING FOR ME, NOR THE INTEREST OF MY COUNTRY...WHEN I MAKE A COMMENT KEEP YOUR WUSSIE STATEMENTS TO YOURSELF, OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY I LOVE!!!!! IF IT WAS ME AND YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD(YOU WOULD GO DOWN FAST). ANY MORE “SMART REMARKS”?!?!

The brit soldiers pandered to the enemy and took gifts from Ahamadinejad and shook hands and thanked him for his kindness. Is this the way a soldier behaves? Admitting guilt and calling for their forces to leave Iraq, what kind of soldiers cater to the enemy? No, the brit soldiers make the entire british navy look weak. Yes they should be court martialed.....

Possibly these British service people were remembering the American hostages of a few years ago and how long it took to secure their release. In truth, they were on their own, and anything short of treason, to mitigate their circumstances, was understandable.

Who do you think you are?

Who do you think you are to give lessons to others? If you think that US soldieres and officers are all dressed in white linen think again and don’t try to teach others what they should do...

I can’t believe such arrogant statement and long life to your girlfriends!

Former U.S military officer says UK troops should be court-martialed

Well I do not expect any thing less from Fox News - a news agency without gall.

Lt. Col Ralph Peters should be Iraq with the troops holdinga a gun not sitting on his ass holding a pen and then passing judgement.

American Hostages Remembered...

Again, the reason I nolonger post with my name(galljdaj), it was stolen by the poster I call uncle toms, a theif liar and coward!

Yes, I remember the American Hostages held in Teran under the Presidency of Jimmy Carter, and how long they were held.

Where they INNOCENT AMERICANS? A much more difficult conclusion to find them innocent than the British 15. The Proofs are not in yet on the 15. But on America and those acting on behalf of America’s Actions against the Iranian Peoples, those Proofs are in.

The level of innocence afforded the Hostages should be tempered by the Actions of the CIA, US Policy to interfer in another Country, so as to Control and dominate the Middle East for Profits. Almost all of those Hostages had the opportunity to Resign rather than to participate in the actions performed against Iranian Peoples. Only a hand full of Military Personnel may have been in Iran unassigned as opposed to voluntarily. Misguided, duped, puppets, does not count towards 'innocent', it only offers explanation.

But certainly should have been in the minds of the 15 British Military Personnel.

British Royal marines

I am very sure they did not the best they can to resist.Where is the air cover and the Brit.ship that shadow them. They should have covered upon learning the are being pursuit by the Iran revo. guard.They ill prepared for the cation however you like at it....Woweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Victims of circumstance

Under the circumstances these soldiers conducted themselves brilliantly, and I applaud them for their actions of saving their hides.

Such critics from outside are good at being armchair directors, I surely would like to see how this retired colonel would react if he would meet the same circumstances, there are no great men but there are great challenges and we must adapt to them as they come.

So I say put up or shut up. These soldiers did the right thing and I believe that this big mouth colonel would have done the same thing under the same circumstaces.

The most important thing is that these people are safe and as far as international boundries are concerned, this can be debateable among the experts — — -Human lives are more important then international boundries.

Sammy

marines

I think the American who made the remarks about the marines should be shipped to Iran with a sign saying “take me to your leader”. Coming from a country with so many “friendly fire incidents” I wouldn’t be pointing fingers!

Those troops were clear in their comments that they were speaking under duress. I could read between the lines that they had been forced. Also, having a woman with them who knows what they were told, they were in isolation. Torture comes in many forms and they were young and not equipped or ordered to open fire on Iran. Had they resisted a major incident would have incurred. I doubt any of us would have done anything differently and I salute them!

Did the US Military bungle...

... But first, I cannot post using my name(galljdaj) because the theif liar plagiarist coward and now misrepresenter, stole my name. The site now assigns the name.

The 'Misrepresenter' wants you to mistake posts he is making and attribute them to me. He is now using “gallAjdaj” with the additional 'A'. Again showing the quality of his person and those he emulates the pUNDITS!

Back to the reason for this post, did the US Military bungle the kidnapping of the 5 Iranians in Northern Iraq a few weeks ago? I say kidnapping because long agter they found out they bungled the Job and kidnapped the wrong People they are still holding the victims!

ref.:
FRIDAY, APRIL 06, 2007
1:40 MECCA TIME, 22:40 GMT
US captured 'wrong Iranians'


The five Iranians were seized from a nondescript house in Irbil in northern Iraq in January[AFP]






US soldiers who captured five Iranians in the Iraq’s northern city of Irbil three months ago were hoping to seize commanders of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, a senior Kurdish leader has said.

Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdish region government, said senior Guards leaders had been visiting Kurdish officials at the time of the January raid.




The five Iranian diplomats who were arrested in the raid on a house in Irbil were all innocent of US charges that they were helping co-ordinate attacks against US and Iraqi forces, Barzani told Dubai-based Al-Arabiyah television in remarks broadcast on Friday.






“It [the house] was not a secret Iranian office," Barzani said.

“It is impossible for us to accept that an Iranian office in Irbil was doing things against coalition forces or against us. That office was doing its work in a normal way and had they been doing anything hostile we would have known that."

“They [the Americans] did not come to detain the people [the five Iranians] in that office."

Barzani suggested that the US forces had instead hoped to captured senior members of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards who were visiting the area at the time.

“There was an Iranian delegation, including Revolutionary Guards commanders, and they came as guests of the president," Barzani said, refering to Jalal Talabani, the Iraqi president who is a Kurd.

“He was in Sulaimaniyah. They came to Sulaimaniyah and then I received a call from the president’s office telling me that they wanted to meet me as well.

“They [the commanders] came here and they came openly. Their meetings with the president and myself were reported on television. The Americans came to detain this delegation, not the people in the office.

“They [Americans] came to the wrong place at the wrong time."

US accusations

Washington has said the five captured Iranians, who were seized in Irbil, the capital of the Kurdish region, were seized on suspicion that they were providing aid to Shia fighters who are targeting US and Iraqi troops and civilians.

On Wednesday, a US military spokesman said that an delegation from the International Committee of the Red Cross had visited the captive Iranians.

On Friday, the US military issued a further statement clarifying that there were no Iranians in an Red Cross team that had visited the five detained Iranians.

The US has denied that it granted access to the Iranian captives as part of a deal which led to Iran freeing 15 British naval personnel who were seized by Iranian forces last month.






Source: Agencies

EX-NAVY YOU ARE AN IDIOT

EX-NAVY
04-07-07, 04:16 PM

YOUR POST SHOWS THE IMMATURITY THAT YOU SUFFER FROM, TRY AND GROW UP AND LEARN THE TRUE FACTS OF LIVE.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE ONES THAT CREATE HOSTILITIES BETWEEN COUNTRIES, DID YOU EVER HEAR THE WORD DIPLOMACY.

WELL WITH DIPLOMACY A LOT OF PROBLEMS CAN BE SOLVED WITHOUT USING BRUTAL FORCE, BECAUSE FORCE CALLS MORE FORCE AND THEN BOOM.

IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT A BIG BOOM BOOM — — -IN MODERN DAYS BOOM BOOM IS OUT OF THE QUESTION, AND SO ARE PEOPLE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT.

SAMMY

From Various news reports... , Our President...

Because my name(galljdaj) was stolen by the uncle toms, this site assigns me a name.

... ,Our President, personally sent the Military out to get some Iranians!

When all the Facts start being put on the Table, a much different Picture emerges than what the American and British pUNDITS tell the Peoples they control!

It will be interesting to see what future reasearch shows.

"I am very sure they did not the best they can to resist. Where is the air cover and the Brit.ship that shadow them. They should have covered upon learning the are being pursuit by the Iran revo. guard”

Was the Cornwallis really just ignoring its sailors?

Perhaps the British ship shadowing them did not help because the sailors really HAD strayed into Iranian waters. In that case, the British ship and airplanes would not have jurisiction.

Second, if they were really 2 miles inside Iraqi waters, how come the Iranian ships were able to get at them from behind? Why were the British ships allowing Iranian war vessels miles inside Iraqi waters? This scenario makes more sense if the sailors were in iranian waters?

Is this what happened? I do not know, so it will be interesting as to what future research shows.

Analyst ... , another possibility that fits...

I cannot use my name because it was stolen by the uncle toms, and the site now assigns a name.

The Command has often enough placed soldiers in harms way on purpose and even unknowingly to those in harms way. The gps equipment could have been distorted on purpose. Which also may explain the Iranians reporting a corrected location.

We know my President wants and has instigated a problem with Iran. We also know Mr. Blair has a subservant role with Mr. Bush, and that also fits into the possibilities you bring up.

I agree it will be interesting to find the Facts! Lacking Trust Worthiness, being skeptical is the only reasonable position to take - and to wait!

smoke and mirrors, the Moslems are famous for it.

First, The Iranians KNEW that the British were in Iraqi waters. Therefore if the british had resisted, regardless of the “heavy weapons” carried by the Iranians it’s at leasdt an even chance that they’d have gone back home. Second, if they’d fired on the british, that would have been a CLEAT act of war and they could expect a STRONG response from thre Americans and British worth a thousand times the Iranians effort. They wouldn’t dare. Particularly since they are NOT at WAR with the Allies, but only on the sidelines to the Iraqi situation.
BUT soince the Zbritish surrendered instead of turning back to their ship, thebsame thing would apply. the Iranians were NOT at WAR, and if they’d harmed or killed any of the british, thatn they WOULD be at war, with a huge force right on their doorstep. There is no comparison to the 1979 Iranian holding of the Embassy hostages for 444 days. Then, they were a people out of control, who’d overthrown their government, and any retaliation had to come from 10,000 miles away. And don’t forget, they were dealing with Jimmy Carter, who was about the worst President America ever had. NOW, in MY opinion, those Abritish soldiers deserve courtmartial and drumming out of the services. What are soldiers coming to. How can we feel safe, being defended by a bunch of “fireside-chatters” like them. They weren’t soldiers. They’re good for nothing really, except maybe to keep people off the grass in front of a Government building. They should have given their rank, name, and number ONLY. Anythig else in the way of threats etc. should have been answered with....“wEll you have us in your power, but we are backed by two of the greatest nations on earth, and their forces are only a few miles away, and if we are not released unharmed, ....WHO KNOWS what might happen”. other than that, they should have said....bugger off. Other soldiers have faced a hell of a lot worse than a little pschological teasing, which they should have known for what itr was. The female “soldier” seemed good for nothing ecxcept making you a cup of tea. Certainly not to be a defender of the country, not in ANY terms. I susp[ect there will be a huge examination by the British, of the psychological makeup of their forces, and pretty quick too.

TO THE EX-NAVY BULLY

EX-NAVY YOU ARE AN IDIOT

EX-NAVY
04-07-07, 04:16 PM

YOUR POST SHOWS THE IMMATURITY THAT YOU SUFFER FROM, TRY AND GROW UP AND LEARN THE TRUE FACTS OF LIVE.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE ONES THAT CREATE HOSTILITIES BETWEEN COUNTRIES, DID YOU EVER HEAR THE WORD DIPLOMACY.

WELL WITH DIPLOMACY A LOT OF PROBLEMS CAN BE SOLVED WITHOUT USING BRUTAL FORCE, BECAUSE FORCE CALLS MORE FORCE AND THEN BOOM.

IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT A BIG BOOM BOOM � � -IN MODERN DAYS BOOM BOOM IS OUT OF THE QUESTION, AND SO ARE PEOPLE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT.

SAMMY


SAMMY-YOU KNOW WHERE TO STICK UR DIPLOMACY

“DIPLOMACYâ��, ITâ��S NOT WORKING WITH IRAN (IS THAT WHERE YOUR FROM), CAUSE YOUR CRAPâ��S NOT WORKING FOR ME, NOR THE INTEREST OF MY COUNTRY...WHEN I MAKE A COMMENT KEEP YOUR WUSSIE STATEMENTS TO YOURSELF, OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY I LOVE!!!!! IF IT WAS ME AND YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD(YOU WOULD GO DOWN FAST). ANY MORE â��SMART REMARKSâ��?!?!

BY YOUR RACIST AND ARROGANT BULLISH REMARKS IT CLEARLY INDICATES THAT IF WE SEND PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO REPRESENT AMERICAN DIPLOMACY SURELY THIS PLANET WILL BE BLOWN UP IN NO TIME AT ALL.

I ASK ARE YOU A HIGH SCOOL DROP OUT OR ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE DIE HARD AMERICANS WHO LACK FORMAL EDUCATION AND STILL BELIEVE IN WHITE SUPREMACY THE JOHN WAYNE TYPE, OH by the way they say that John Wayne was Gay, is that right? — — — -BUT REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF JOHN WAYNES IN AMERICA WHO DO NOT FLEX THEIR MUSCLES BUT THEY USE THEIR BRAINS INSTEAD AND DO NOT GO AROUND FLEXING THEIR MUSCLES, SAY LIKE THE LITTLE OLD GRANDMOTHER, NANCY PELOSI, WHO IS TRYING TO REGAIN THE LOST FRIENDS THAT EVIL ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE CHASED AWAY, ALWAYS THROUGH YOUR TYPE OF REASONING, BEING BULLY AND THREATINING AND USING ARROGANCE.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT YOU CAN CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY THAN YOU CAN WITH VINIGAR???

AS FAR AS COMUNICATION IS CONCERNED, YOU SHOULD GET A FEW LESSONS ON HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHERS, SAY SOMETHING LIKE USING GOOD NOT OFFENDING WORDS; AND IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH OTHERS WE DO NOT USE GUTTER WORDS THAT YOU USE IN YOUR FAMILY CIRCLE, BUT THEN IN A WAY IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE IT INDICATES YOUR GENERAL BACKGROUND.

AS FAR AS MY COMMENTS, DID YOU EVER HEAR THE PHRASE — -FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION — -YES MY FRIEND WE STILL IN THIS PLANET ARE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS IN A CIVILIZED MANNER — — SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT ADHEAR TO — — -BULLY.

SAMMY, A FREE MAN, WHO WILL DIE TO PROTECT HIS FREEDOM AND YES, EVEN YOURS, BULLY.

PRACICE WHAT YOU PREACH

Anonymous
04-07-07, 03:38 PM

ANONYMOUS, DO YOU REALLY PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH?

NOW, TELL THE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!

THERE ARE NO GREAT MEN, BUT THERE ARE GREAT CHALLENGES, AND SAMMY IS READY TO FACE THEM AS THEY ARISE, ARE YOU?

Sammy;22494:

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT YOU CAN CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY THAN YOU CAN WITH VINIGAR???

Who the hell wants to catch, let alone be around filthy flies? Quit screaming! It makes you appear to be an even bigger idiot. Do you know how to release your Caps Lock?

Sammy

Sammy,

You really do not have an understanding of the military. You seem to think that your looney left code of ethics (of which there are none) applies to the US military. For your edification:

US Military Code of Conduct

Article I:
I am an American, fighting in the armed forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
Article II:
I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
Article III:
If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to excape and air others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
Article IV:
If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information nor take part in any action which mibht be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
Article V:
When questioned, should I become a prisioner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.
Article VI:
I will never forget that I am an American, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my GOd and in the United States of America.